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A Hockey Game Broke Out

July 27, 2009

During our pre-panel discussion at the recent Midwest Lodging Investors Summit, the group of panelists for our panel was discussing “distressed assets” and the market for them.

I posited the notions that (a) the term “distressed assets” should be on the “I don’t want to hear it again” list, (b) “distressed assets” were assets that, as operating hotels, were problematic, and (c) most buyers did not want “distressed assets,” they want assets that are operating decently and whose capital structure is distressed. There ensued an interesting conversation debating whether I was drawing too fine a line in this distinction (who, me?).

It is my humble perspective that most buyers circling the so-called “distressed assets” are looking for assets priced at a significant discount to the existing capital structure (which may have passed for “market value” at some point in the not-so-distant past). The “distress” the assets are under relates solely to a no-longer sustainable capital stack. So, I ask, “Is that really a distressed asset?"

I consider a “distressed asset” (did I say that I want to stop using this term?) one that is almost irretrievably broken. It’s the full-service, first-class hotel that, if owned without a mortgage, would still be a nightmare (usually in a location where the hotel market is best served by the limited-service assets that likely have sprung up around the full-service one); it’s the second generation limited-service asset in a place where, one exit away on the Interstate, fourth and fifth generation versions of the competition are abundant; and, it’s the asset that has been so capital-constrained that it cannot compete physically or from a service perspective with the well-regarded property across the street.

I do not believe that financial buyers who are assembling their war chests want these assets. They want the assets which perform well considering the economic circumstances but which have capital stack stress, to which they can bring their financial prowess (and funds) to bear and hope for a recovery.  And, the financial buyers want to buy these decent assets at a substantial discount to their current capitalization. Yet, we hear that the money is standing by to acquire “distressed assets.” Simply put, they want “discounted assets” (and my partners and I are among them).

So, our panel had a substantive conversation about the differences: whether they existed, whether my notion made any sense (which might be the first time one of my notions makes sense) and whether they agreed.

Hmm, I went to a conference and a truly interesting, substantive conversation broke out. Rodney Dangerfield, you would have been proud.

Posted by Michael Shindler on July 27, 2009 | Comments (8)
Industries: Finance & Investment

October 28, 2009
In response to: A Hockey Game Broke Out
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October 28, 2009
In response to: A Hockey Game Broke Out
huawo commented:

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August 3, 2009
In response to: A Hockey Game Broke Out
Pierce Group commented:

Michael, very nice article. I wonder if you play in the residential side at all. Mixed use residential resort real estate projects with a hotel component are of interest to us. Right now we know that residential is not selling so there are likely to be many projects out there that can be purchased at a significant discount and re-structured to offer a blend of whole and fractional ownership components. We believe that in 4 or 5 years up to 50% of resort real estate sales will be in the form of fractional ownership. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. Eric Pierce piercegroupllc.com


July 29, 2009
In response to: A Hockey Game Broke Out
A Buyer commented:

I like Michael's distinction, and as a buyer agree wholeheartedly. At the risk of further refining a fine line there seems to be several sub-categories: Equity Distress, Debt Distress, Operating Distress and perhaps the examples you give are not so much 'Distressed' as 'Terminal'.


July 28, 2009
In response to: A Hockey Game Broke Out
Elcoj commented:

Not sure that this is true:), but thanks for a post. Elcoj


July 28, 2009
In response to: A Hockey Game Broke Out
Richard Millard. commented:

Michael, you are so absolutely correct, I have "worked out" as we say probably 200 so called "distressed hotel assets" in my way too long career. But I have never been able to perform "the miracle". Because just when I turned up, the market did not change (I never understood why not) if itwas lousy before I showed up, it remained lousy. I may have done a little better than the last guy,but it still sucked. My point being the same as yours, distressed capital structure is the correct name.


July 27, 2009
In response to: A Hockey Game Broke Out
Bill Moyer commented:

Michael, You are absolutely right, who wants a "distressed asset" that is probably in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong asset class. Most players are looking for good hotels in good locations at "distressed prices" which means, "not much happening these days"


July 27, 2009
In response to: A Hockey Game Broke Out
hotel.gm commented:

Excellent as always Michael, thank you. This makes a nice lead-in for the "turn around" banter/myth that seems to always surround these "d"-word assets. No amount of managerial/operational expertise is going to fix a truly distressed asset as you described above. I'm suspecting that most of the discounted assets you describe above are already pretty well managed - they just can't handle their debt load. Hope you and your partners find plenty.

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